do you think that general allen and david petraeus' reputations are salvageable? should they hire a crisis communications expert? >> they may want to. reputations are fragile thing. as a lot of folks can tell you especially those who have been in the spotlight. the next few weeks will sort of -- how they handle themselves will tell the tale. i've counseled my clients on issues like this. never underestimate the capacity of the public to forgive but you have to ask for it. you have to be contrite and open and you know, this -- this is a situation with jill kelley, with broadwell and general allen, so many moving parts you've got to get all of the pieces right so you can get your story out there. and tell it in a way that you know, will make the public forgive you. >> jennifer: so does the fact then that jill kelley actually hired a reputation fixer judy smith, does that fact tell you that she's potentially in a lot of trouble and there is -- there are some other shoes that might drop? >> well, it tells me she's clearly concerned. over the last couple of days, i kno